podcast-graphicTHE LOVING WITHOUT

offers interviews, lessons and insights on the subjects of polyamory and ethical non-monogamy. Our mission is to create more awareness and acceptance of these lifestyle choices through education, communication and the respectful exchange of ideas.

We seek to promote healthy relationships, tolerance and understanding – whether you are already living a life of ethical non-monogamy or are among those who are curious to know more. We love to create, share stories of courage and growth, encourage loving responsibly, and spread positive energy. So come join us!


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Christa Lei


Christa Lei (they/she) was born and raised on Native Hawaiian land as the youngest child of Filipine immigrants. They studied Community Psychology and their professional experiences revolve around healthcare: patient advocacy, case work/care facilitation, and clinical research. Their intersectional identities as a fat, neurodivergent, disabled, queer, polyamorous, third-culture person inform their personal and professional work. A multi-modal creative, Christa creates and facilitates spaces for community care. Along with their lived experiences as a crip queer person, they have additional professional training in embodied social justice and death doula work.

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Mariko Sakai


Mariko is a business woman, coach, thought leader, TEDx speaker, light worker, and sex-positive community builder. Mariko is passionate about helping people that successfully conformed to the society’s expectations by suppressing and dissociating their true selves, their needs, and desires; to live a whole life bringing all parts of themselves, light or dark. She is a certified coach in sex, love, relationship, conscious dating, tantric intimacy, women’s empowerment, FemDom and ethical BDSM. She is also trained in Human Designs, EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique), Co-Creative Science, and lives an alternative lifestyle.

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Dr. Stephen Furlich


Dr. Stephen Furlich is the author of Nonverbal epiphany: Steps to Improve Your nonverbal Communication. He is also the best- selling author of a breakthrough book, Sex Talk: How Biological Sex Influences Gender Communication Differences Throughout Life’s Stages. He has taught and researched communication at the university level for over 20 years. He has taught a variety of communication courses with the main focus of better understanding oneself and others. Often, his research projects and the courses that he taught,
complemented each other and lead into innovative directions.

Dr. Furlich has been an associate professor at Texas A & M University since 2018 and served as an assistant professor there for five years prior to that. He has presented at many conferences, including: DFW Metroplex Linguistics Conference, Society for Information Technology and Teacher Education Conference, E-Learning Conference, National Communication Association Conference, Southern States Communication Association Conference, International Academy of Business and Public Administration Disciplines, and International Conference of the American Pragmatics Association.

Dr. Furlich, who was recently interviewed by One America News Network, has been published in numerous journals, including: Texas Speech Communication Journal, Kentucky Journal of Communication, The Florida Communication Journal, Journal of Applied communication Research, Academic Exchange Quarterly, Journal of Integrated Social Sciences, and Journal of the Scholarship of Teaching and Learning. His communication paradigm is from a receiver’s perspective. This places the emphasis on the listener to better understand from the speaker’s perspectives and as a speaker emphasizing understanding from the listener’s perspectives. Both of these become more challenging as differences increase between the speaker and listener. Dr. Furlich has become fascinated with technological advancements in science that have enabled a better understanding of communication. Without these scientific advances, understanding communication is quite limited. This line of research has inspired him to write this book to bring together many different scientific studies to better understand the role of biology with nonverbal communication cues.

He earned a Doctor of Philosophy in Higher Education, a Master of Arts in Communication
Studies, and a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Texas Tech University. He resides in
McKinney Commerce, Texas.

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Steph Zapata


Steph Zapata is a well-seasoned, nationally recognized, award-winning, NuyoRican sexuality educator and space creator.

They have become a long-term catalyst for change within sexuality education through their radically intentional approaches that call out systems of oppression, and calls-in individuals and community to disrupt and re-imagine what can be.

Their work focuses on collective liberation tactics through innovative and honest sex ed that creates space for the whole self, and the whole truth.

Steph is a self-titled “Unprofessional Professional” who offers no apology for the disruption of white supremacy through the joy of de-colonial sexuality education.

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Heather Claus


Heather has lived an atypical life.

— She’s hitchhiked across the country.

— She’s traveled and worked in a carnival for a season.

— She’s roamed New York City with street people.

— She’s explored (and taught) alternative lifestyles.

— She’s nonmonogamous.

— She’s ADHD.

She’s also left an abusive marriage and chose to create the love she wanted.

Now more than 15 years later, she’s living her passion. She write books about love, sex, and romance for people of all genders, relationship statuses, orientations and more. She teaches workshops and coaches amazing people to create lives full of love and connection.

She’s a fan of wonderful people enjoying love, sex, and romance in happy and functional lives (whatever that might look like from human to human).

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Molly Roden Winter


Molly Roden Winter is the author of the NYTimes instant bestseller, “MORE: A Memoir of Open Marriage”. She lives in Park Slope, Brooklyn with her husband and two part-time roommates, also known as her sons.

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Michele Hy


Michelle Hy is from Portland, Oregon and runs the Instagram page Polyamorous While Asian, which seeks to normalize non-monogamy and amplify the voices of other POC, who are significantly underrepresented in non-monogamous communities. She works to educate from an intersectional lens, offers peer support sessions, and touches on topics related to body confidence, sex positivity, and more.

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Dr. Rebecca Lahann


Dr. Lahann is an AASECT Certified Sex Therapist, Clinical Psychologist, and speaker. She is focused on providing education, resources, and psychological services as the Clinical Director of Spectrum Psychology and Wellness in Gilbert, AZ. Her work specializes in individual counseling and holistic sex therapy, focusing on intersectional approaches to values-aligned living across the lifespan.

She has experience working with diverse bio-psycho-social-sexual backgrounds, relational dynamics, and a broad spectrum of mental health presentations. She has been involved in the BDSM, kink, ENM and poly communities for several decades, and is a member of the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom (NCSF)s Kink and Polyamory Aware Professionals Directory (KAP).

Dr. Lahann has been an active member of her professional community in various roles. She is Past-President of the Arizona Psychological Association and the Arizona Psychology Training Consortium.

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Yael Rosenstock Gonzalez


Yael R Rosenstock Gonzalez is the founder of Kaleidoscope Vibrations, LLC, a company dedicated to supporting and creating spaces for individuals to explore and find community in their personal identities. As a queer, polyamorous, white-presenting Nuyorican Jew, Yael has always been interested in understanding the multi-level experiences of individuals. Through her company, she facilitates workshops, develops curriculum, offers Identity Exploration Coaching, and publishes narratives often left out of mainstream publishing. An upcoming publication is a coffee-table book representing the narratives and images from the photo-interview series, the Diverse Bodies Project, of which she is a founding member.

Yael has been engaged in workshop development and facilitation since she joined the New York Civil Liberties Union (NYCLU) as a teen peer reproductive rights educator at 15 years old. Since then, she has served as an educator with children ranging from 10 months old to adults in their 70s with different organizations and communities. In her work as first Program Coordinator, then Director of Programming, and finally Associate Director of the Center for Ethnic, Racial, and Religious Understanding, Yael developed and led events, workshops, and programs with an intersectionality lens.

Throughout Yael’s career, there has been an emphasis on sex, gender, and diversity. Her undergraduate thesis, “A Not so Silent Voice for Female Sexuality: Empowering Examples from Literature Cross-Culturally” and Master’s thesis, “Dismantling Rape Culture through an Exploration of Consent, Desire, and Pleasure,” created space for her to explore sexuality, consent, and pleasure through different perspectives and disciplines. In 2018 she published “An Introguide to a Sex Positive You: Lessons, Tales, and Tips,” a queer and trans inclusive book, and has since begun offering Sex Coaching services.

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Dr. Leanna Wolfe’s sex research was spirited by coming of age in the thick of the 1970s sexual revolution and feminist movement in the San Francisco Bay Area. Her curiosities and academic appetites led her to engage in field research in Mexico, Africa, India and Papua New Guinea, earning an MA in Anthropology from the New School for Social Research and a PhD in Sexology from the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality. From 1980 to 2018 she worked as a university professor teaching and researching topics ranging from orgasm, multiple partner sexualities and sexual assault. In 2016 she launched Wise Woman Sex and Relationship Consulting, providing counseling through her unique lens of Sexual Anthropology. She is also the author of “177 Lovers and Counting: My Life as a Sex Researcher.”

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ElReco Ramon


ElReco Ramon aka Ghost, was born in Quachita (wah-shuh-taw) Parish, Louisiana. He is the eldest of 4 siblings. He’s been living a nomadic lifestyle since 2020, and has been in radio broadcasting for over 20 years. His current hobbies & interests include two podcasts (“Normal Lol” & “Multi-Monogamous”), skateboarding, dogs, painting, writing, land stewarding, herbal healing, and studying indigenous and ancient forms of mental health and alternative lifestyle companionship. In 2023, he wrote and self-published his first book titled, “Multi-Monogamous – 3 Ex-Fiances Later”.

Robert Brooks Cohen


Robert Brooks Cohen is a bisexual, bicoastal writer and content creator living between Los Angeles and New York City. He spent seven seasons writing and producing for Law & Order: SVU, among other shows. He is the creator and host of Two Bi Guys, a podcast about fluid sexuality, masculinity, and the gender spectrum, and his first book, “Bisexual Married Men: Stories of Relationships, Acceptance, and Authenticity”, was published by Routledge in November, 2023.

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Amelia Kelley


Dr. Amelia Kelley is a trauma-informed therapist, Art therapist, HSP Therapist, EMDR-informed therapist and meditation and Yoga teacher. She is a presenter and writer in the science-help field and public speaker focusing on healthy relationships, Highly Sensitive Persons, trauma, motivation, healthy living, and adult ADHD. She is a trainer for the SAS Work/Life Program in Cary, NC and a resident trainer for the NC Art Therapy Institute. Her practice is part of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium at the Kinsey Institute. Her newest book, “What I Wish I Knew: Surviving and Thriving After an Abusive Relationship”, was published in January of 2022. She is also the author of “Gaslighting Recover for Women: The Complete Guide for Recognizing Manipulation and Achieving Freedom from Emotional Abuse.”

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Jace Ryden


Jace C. Ryden is a queer, kinky, pansexual, poly, trans man, who has made Arizona his home for over twenty years. He prides himself on being an outspoken advocate for transgender and civil rights and, as an “out” transgender man, has made it a point to use his powers for good, as it were, and has spoken publicly about his transition and his experiences as a member of the trans, poly, and kink communities. He’s the co-creator of “How to be a Trans Ally” and “From Allies to Accomplices: L.E.A.P.ing into Action”, which have been presented at numerous conferences and teaching opportunities since 2019. Jace is also an award-winning entertainer, emcee, and producer, and is the co-host of Arizona’s longest-running drag livestream, Let’s Have a Fefe, which just wrapped up it’s 11th season.

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JoEllen Notte is a writer, speaker, and mental health advocate, whose work explores the impact of depression on sex and relationships. She is the author of “The Monster Under The Bed: Sex, Depression, and the Conversations We Aren’t Having” (Thorntree Press, 2020) and “In It Together: Navigating Depression with Partners, Friends, and Family” (Thornapple Press, 2023).

RELATED LINKS | Website | Instagram

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Cindy Gallop is the founder and CEO of MakeLoveNotPorn,  launched at TED 2009 – ‘Pro-sex. Pro-porn. Pro-knowing the difference’. In 2013 she turned MakeLoveNotPorn into the world’s first user-generated, human-curated social sex videosharing platform socializing and normalizing sex in order to make it easier to talk about, to promote consent, communication, good sexual values and good sexual behavior. MakeLoveNotPorn’s mission is to end rape culture by spearheading the Social Sex Revolution (the revolutionary part isn’t the sex, but the social). Cindy speaks at conferences globally and consults, describing her approach as ‘I like to blow shit up. I am the Michael Bay of business.’

RELATED LINKS | Website | Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | TED

Tatiana Carrera Loving Without Boundaries Podcast Interview


Tatiana Carrera, published author of a self-help guide, “Oralicious, The Truth About Oral Sex, Intimacy and Passion”, Screenwriter of “5 Senses: A Tale of Sex”. She’s a podcaster of “Oralicious – A Tale of Sex”, now in it’s 5th Season, a relationship and sexuality coach, and host of one the hottest rooms on Clubhouse, “The Pleasure Journey”, daily at 1:05 pm (EST), with 5K followers and growing. Also in discussions, to License her USPTO Trademark ORALICIOUS, a lipstick & Cocktail brands.

Tatiana states, “We live in a fast paced, instant gratification, and sexually charged culture that moves from point “A” right to “Z” when defining how orgasms are and should be obtained, often ignoring points “B” through “Y.” Getting Back to Basic is an attempt to shift our focus from the now instant sexual gratification of achieving an orgasm to all the sensual points that fall in between. Taking a moment to learn how to enjoy the sexual Pleasure Journey by kissing, incorporating our 5 Sex Senses when we are in the act of SEXplay, and finding our Erogenous Zones, so that we all can achieve an explosive orgasm.”

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Gordon and Jennifer Loving Without Boundaries Podcast


Gordon and Jennifer – who have both been in marriages that failed due to infidelity on each of their partner’s part – met and have enjoyed a great relationship together, having lived in a monogamous marriage for 20 years. After reading some kinky books, searching other fun sexual activities, and their growing ever closer and curious about their own fantasies, Gordon and Jenn stepped out into the world to explore making some of these sexual fantasies a reality. Two years ago, starting with a threesome, after adventuring out to a sex club – because that experience was so fun and exciting – Gordon began seeing the excitement and motivation Jenn was having towards this new world. Yet pangs of some of the old feelings of his past marriage and the infidelity, that caused so much difficulty, came rushing back in. This is the reason that brought Gordon and Jennifer to the “Jealousy Survival Guide” (Loving Without Boundaries) coaching program.

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Jeff Gleason and Sarah Love - Loving Without Boundaries Podcast


Jeff and Sarah have been together almost 8 years. They have been open-relating for 5 of those years. Jeff is a public school educator and men’s coach, and Sarah is a sex educator. They live in Colorado with their two kids, age 13 and 8. Here they will share their incredible results that they achieved working within our open-relating coaching program here at Loving Without Boundaries, as another amazing client success story.

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Eleanor O'Brien Loving without Boundaries Podcast


Eleanor O’Brien is the artistic director of Dance Naked Creative, a sex-positive theater and event company. She is a writer, performer and facilitator. She is the creator of solo shows: “Plan V”, “How to Really, Really? Really! Love a Woman”, “GGG: Dominatrix for Dummies” and “Lust & Marriage”.

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Sander T Jones - Loving without Boundaries Podcast


Sander T. Jones, a colleague, friend, and licensed psychotherapist and author of the book “Cultivating Connection: A Practical Guide for Personal and Relationship Growth in Ethical Non-Monogamy.”

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Libby and Cal - Loving Without Boundaries Podcast


Libby & Cal are a folk music duo based out of Ottawa, Canada. They recently released an album that tries to subvert traditional narratives about love and lust entitled If You’ve Given Up on Love, Then Let’s Call it Something Else.

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Dr. Amelia Kelley


Dr. Amelia Kelley is a trauma-informed therapist, Art therapist, HSP Therapist, EMDR-informed therapist and meditation and Yoga teacher. She is a presenter and writer in the science-help field and public speaker focusing on healthy relationships, Highly Sensitive Persons, trauma, motivation, healthy living, and adult ADHD. She is a trainer for the SAS Work/Life Program in Cary, NC and a resident trainer for the NC Art Therapy Institute. Her practice is part of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium at the Kinsey Institute. Her newest book, “What I Wish I Knew: Surviving and Thriving After an Abusive Relationship”, was just January 10th of this year.

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Orit Krug


Orit Krug is an award-winning Board-Certified Dance/Movement Therapist and Licensed Creative Arts Therapist who has helped transform the lives of more than 5,000 clients. A licensed therapist with her own practice, she has helps couples strengthen and expand their relationships by working through past trauma stored in the body. As Orit practices polyamory in her own life, she uses her experience and platform to ensure that partners can safely and lovingly expand beyond the normal boundaries in all of their relationships.

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Mango Mike


Mango Mike realized life is short, decided to move 3,000 miles across the country to chase adventure. Since then he’s lived in a van for 5 years, quit a very established career as an electrician, and is now living his dream surfing, diving, and fishing during the summer, while snowboarding deep powder during the winters.

Nick Catton


Nicholas is a creativity and emotional expression coach exploring the world of ethical non-monogamy.

Stephanie Chisholm


Stephanie is an aerialist, movement artist and tantric practitioner. She has been a professional performer for 13 years and uses her in depth body knowledge in her tantric work to inspire deep somatic healing in herself and her clients. Stephanie is passionate about discovering freedom through the body, art as a tool for transformation and healing trauma through sound, breath, movement and emotional release. Follow her work and adventures @flystephaniefly and @somatichealingembodiment.


Dr. Stephen Furlich


Dr. Stephen Furlich is the author of a breakthrough book, “Sex Talk: How biological Sex Influences Gender Communication Differences Throughout Life’s Stages”. He has taught and researched communication at the university level for over 20 years. He has taught a variety of communication courses with the main focus of better understanding oneself and others. Often, his research projects and the courses that he taught, complemented each other and lead into innovative directions.

RELATED LINKS | Book | LinkedIn

Jess Shade


Jess Shade is a high-altitude ski mountaineer, queer cis woman, poly person, and Clinical Mental Health Counselor licensed in Utah and Michigan. Jess works closely with Utah’s LGBTQ+, kink, and poly communities and serves on the board of the LGBTQ+ Affirmative Therapist Guild of Utah. Additionally, Jess supports members of the mountain sports and snow safety communities.

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Alexandra Harbushka


Alexandra Harbushka’s life was sent into upheaval when she received a call from her doctor diagnosing her with herpes. Shaking, feeling like her life – her goals, happiness, and desires – had all just gone up in smoke, she was left scared shitless and with a new mission, to share her story with people just like her and to let them know that their feelings are normal, natural, and that they are not victims. With that mission in mind, she founded Life With Herpes, an online community consisting of a podcast, a website, YouTube channel, wellness products to support the skin condition and an online community that provides support, all dedicated to shattering the stigma of living with herpes.

Before founding Life With Herpes and becoming a mother to her son Clinton and a wife to her husband Bill, Alexandra worked in corporate America with roles ranging from Ralph Lauren to selling new home construction to being a mortgage loan officer. Her education includes a bachelor’s degree from the University of Arizona (Bear Down to my fellow Wildcats!) and a postgraduate certificate in Ministry. She is currently working on a masters in Theology and is also an ordained minister and provides ministry counseling.

RELATED LINKS | Life with Herpes Website | Life with Herpes Instagram | Alexandra’s Instagram | TikTok | YouTube

Susannah Weiss and Steve Dean


Suzannah Weiss is a feminist writer, multi-certified sex educator, and sex/relationship coach. Her work has been published in “The New York Times”, “The Washington Post”, and more.

Steve Dean is a dating industry consultant, relationship coach, and avid community builder. Since 2011, Steve has lived nomadically around the world, testing out over 250 dating apps across 30 cities, and linking physical and virtual communities together so that people around the world can become more interconnected and less lonely. Steve hosts the Dateworking podcast where he provides practical wisdom for navigating our modern dating, relationship, and career ecosystems.

RELATED LINKS | Susannah’s Website | Susannah’s Instagram | Susannah’s Twitter  | Steve’s Website | Steve’s Instagram | Steve’s Twitter

Susan Wright


Susan is the Executive Director of the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom (NCSF). NCSF celebrated its 25th Anniversary in 2022 – that’s over 25 years of fighting for the rights of kinky and polyamorous people. NCSF supports the groups and businesses in our communities and educates professionals so they can provide better services.

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Natasha Strange


Natasha Strange has been a professional dominatrix for nearly 30 years, and offers creative sessions in a wide variety of disciplines. She also offers approachable coaching and kink education in an attempt to demystify a potentially scary topic.

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Logan and Sophie


Transformational coaching clients, Sophie and Logan, are high school sweethearts turned partners for life, who are always looking for their next great adventure!

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Kate Loree


Kate Loree, LMFT, is a sex-positive licensed marriage and family therapist with a specialty in non-monogamous, kink, LGBTQ, and sex worker communities and the author of “Open Deeply: A Guide to Building Conscious, Compassionate Open Relationships”. In addition to her master’s in marriage and family therapy, she also has an MBA and is a registered art therapist (ATR). She is an EDSE certified sex educator and an EMDR certified therapist with additional training in the Trauma Resiliency Model (TRM) for the treatment of trauma. She has been practicing psychotherapy since 2003. She cohosts her own sex-positive podcast, Open Deeply, with Sunny Megatron, has been featured in Buzzfeed videos, and has been a guest on Playboy Radio and many podcasts, including American Sex, Sluts and Scholars, and Sex Out Loud. She has written for Good Vibrations and Hollywood Magazine and is a frequent public speaker. Her private practice resides in Encino, CA.

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Normalizing Non-Monogamy Podcast


For Emma and Fin, life is all about seeking out adventure, embracing the chaos, and meeting amazing people along the way. They are in their mid thirties, met in seventh grade, and have been together since their freshman year of college. A year or so into their relationship it was obvious that exploring everything life had to offer was part of who they were as individuals, and as a team. They were very young at the time and neither had really experienced the world of dating, so they created a way to explore aspects of the dating world without ending their relationship, through non-monogamy. Fast forward about 11 years and they decided to start a weekly podcast called Normalizing Non-Monogamy in 2018. They absolutely love meeting new people and hearing their stories and through this podcast they get to interview people from all over the world who are exploring non-monogamy on their own terms. The hope is that if they can get enough of those stories out into the world that it will provide a resource for anyone who is considering non-monogamy. They also want to show that non-monogamy is more common than most people think and that it can be done in an ethical and consensual way. Overall, the mission is to inspire people to embrace their true selves so that, together, we can open minds and live authentically without shame.

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Amelia Kelley


Dr. Amelia Kelley is a trauma-informed therapist, Art therapist, HSP Therapist, EMDR-informed therapist and meditation and Yoga teacher. She is a presenter and writer in the science-help field and public speaker focusing on healthy relationships, Highly Sensitive Persons, trauma, motivation, healthy living, and adult ADHD. She is a trainer for the SAS Work/Life Program in Cary, NC and a resident trainer for the NC Art Therapy Institute. Her practice is part of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium at the Kinsey Institute. Her book, “What I Wish I Knew: Surviving and Thriving After an Abusive Relationship“, was published in January 2022.

RELATED LINKS | Website | Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | Insight Timer

Rachel Allyn


Rachel Allyn, PhD has been a licensed holistic psychologist for almost 20 years specializing in mind-body medicine, relationships, and intimacy issues. She helps individuals and couples cope with their mood, life transitions, and all types of relationship challenges.

As a certified yoga teacher, Dr. Allyn incorporates the body into her sessions at times and leads therapeutic mind-body workshops and retreats. She recently released a book called “The Pleasure Is All Yours: Reclaim Your Body’s Bliss and Reignite Your Passion for Life”. The book is based on the same topic as her 2019 TEDx talk focusing on her method of “bodyfulness,” which integrates mindfulness, movement to release stress stuck in the body, and reclaiming healthy pleasures within a repressed culture. Her motto is “Pleasure to the People!” When she’s not spreading this message, you can find her skiing, surfing, or singing karaoke.

Dana Hicks


Before retiring from the clergy, Dr. Dana Robert Hicks was a pastor, professor, and organizational consultant for over 30 years. He is an Amazon best-selling author and has contributed to many books and articles that revolve around the themes of culture and Christianity and organizational change.

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Jessica Fern


Jessica Fern is a Psychotherapist, Coach, and Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Jessica is the author of Polysecure: Attachment, Trauma, and NonMonomgamy and The Polysecure Workbook: Healing Your Attachment and Creating Security in Loving Relationships. In her international private practice, Jessica works with individuals, couples, and people in multiple-partner relationships who no longer want to be limited by their reactive patterns, cultural conditioning, insecure attachment styles, and past traumas, helping them to embody new possibilities in life and love.

Chez Jennings


Chez Jennings is a co-founder of The Bonding Project, a research initiative and online community advocating for relationship diversity. She comes from the startup world where she’s helped early to late-stage companies scale teams. She’s a fan of nontraditional relationship styles and queer representation in pop culture. She’s an avid reader and tea drinker who loves sweets and binging reality shows.


Kathy Labriola


Kathy Labriola is a nurse, counselor, and hypnotherapist in Berkeley, California. She has provided affordable mental health services to alternative communities for the past 30 years. She has been a card-carrying bisexual, polyamorist for 50 years. Kathy is author of “Love in Abundance: A Counselor’s Advice on Open Relationships”, “The Jealousy Workbook”, “The Polyamory Break-up Book: Causes, Prevention, and Survival”, and her new book, “Polyamorous Elders: Aging in Open Relationships”. She is extra crunchy, and lives in a housing cooperative, rides a bicycle, and raises chickens and organic vegetables.


Angie and Alan Thomas


On March 2, 2017, Alan Thomas stepped on his bathroom scale and panic set in. The number staring back at him read 304 lbs. His first thought was of him being known as Angie’s first husband as he would likely not live another 10 years. Second, all he would miss with their four children. Third, he also thought of all the future dreams he hoped to accomplish that would be cut short by his obesity.

Two hundred sixty days later, stepping on that same scale, Alan saw 175 pounds, which was his goal weight. Angie joined Alan and released 63 lbs. Their two personal journeys has led to the process known as “Rethink Dieting,” where Alan and Angie walk everyday people that struggle out of the self-made prison of overweight and obesity to unleash their potential so they can live the life they were born to live.

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Joli Hamilton


Dr. Joli Hamilton is the relationship coach for couples who color outside the lines. She is a research psychologist, TEDx speaker, and AASECT certified sex educator. Joli is also the author of the best-selling book “Project Relationship: The Entrepreneur’s Action Plan for Passionate, Sustainable Love”. She has spent the past two decades studying and re-imagining what love can be if we open our imaginations to possibility. Joli helps people create partnerships that are custom-built for their authentic selves, no more shrinking, pretending, or hiding required.

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Nate Hockstra


Nate Hockstra is an expert on helping men find a meaningful relationship without using any “pick up” or game playing. He has helped countless men find companionship and love for a lifetime. He is a former coach for Tony Robbins, has over 10 years experience, and has over 10,000 of coaching experience. He resides in San Diego with his lovely wife.

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Cooper Beckett


Queer non-monogamous writer, Cooper S. Beckett began his writing career as a podcaster as host of Life on the Swingset: The Podcast and speaker in the sexuality education community, he wrote “My Life on the Swingset”, a memoir of his first five years in non-monogamy, then followed that up with two novels, “A Life Less Monogamous”, and “Approaching the Swingularity”. He lives in Chicago with Elle, his wife, constant, and binary star, Egon, their ghost terrier, and black cat Willow.

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Lyndzi Miller has been a sexual educator at The Tool Shed: An Erotic Boutique since 2012, and is their current assistant manager. She established the Milwaukee Poly Group in 2008, facilitating discussion and support group meetings every month since. She also hosts the bi-weekly podcast, Polyamory Uncensored, interviewing ethically non-monogamous folks on their polyamorous journeys. She is an avid knitter, a mother, a burlesque dancer, and a huge geek.

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Luna Ray is the founder of Bloom Community. Bloom is a community hub centered on ethically non-monogamous, queer, kink, and creative groups and events. She serves on the board of OPEN, the Organization for Polyamory and Ethical Non-Monogamy, whose mission is to advance public acceptance and build political power for polyamory and ethical non-monogamy. Prior to Bloom, Luna led User Acquisition for Instagram from 700M to over a billion users, the social products team at Oculus that launched consumer VR to the world, and the Marketplace team at Faire. Luna has two degrees in engineering and business from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and studied computer science at Stanford.

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Shai Fishman and Lea Aella are the founders of Leveled Up Love, a thriving global Facebook community of over 7,700 open relators around the world seeking to create secure, fulfilling, and sustainable non-monogamous relationships. They are creators of the Secure Poly Collective™, a heart-centered support program for conscious open relating with exclusive live events each month, coaching with the best in the industry, and an array of tools and resources. Through their coaching and group program work, Shai & Lea teach their philosophy of open relating called Eco-Amory™, an approach to free love that mindfully cares about the entire relationship environment and sets the stage for fulfilling, healing, and sustainably happy polyamorous relationships. They have appeared and spoken on “The Doctors”, “Leading Edge Love Radio”, Evolve Fest, Relate Fest, Enrich, One World Tantra Festival, and Sol Y Luna Festival.

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Shai Fishman is the co-founder of Leveled Up Love, a thriving global Facebook community of over 8000 “open relators” around the world seeking to create secure, fulfilling, and sustainable non-monogamous relationships. He is the co-creator of the Secure Poly Collective™, a heart-centered support program for conscious open relating with exclusive live events each month, coaching with the best in the industry, and an array of tools and resources.

In this episode, Shai and Kitty talk about Open Love Experience, a Platinum Level Retreat for Couples Curious About Consensual Nonmonogamy, inclusive of Transformative Relationship Coaching, Private Festival Performances, and an Unforgettable Erotic Evening. The event will be held October 13-17, 2022 in Fort Pierce, FL. Kitty Chambliss will be among the expert presenters at this unique and exclusive event!

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Jonathan Papernick is a novelist and short story writer. He teaches fiction writing at Emerson College in Boston where he has taught since 2007. “I Am My Beloveds” is his fifth book.

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Roger Morgan is 27 years old. He and his wife are new to the world of polyamory/ENM. He is a former Conservative Evangelical and recently completed his Bachelor’s degree in Biblical and Theological Studies. He considers himself polyamorous by orientation.

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Cee Blossom is a life coach who helps people feel more secure in consensually non-monogamous relationships.

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Ashley Robertson identifies as a feminine, ethically non-monogamous, doll. With over a decade of experience in the BDSM scene, she isn’t shy of perverse topics. She is a liberated educator who wishes to share with others the freedom of sexuality without shame. With three teaching degrees, she’s fed up with the idea that learning comes from a constrictive set of standards. Instead, she assumes innate curiosity in all people and crafts workshops and activities that invite introspection. She’s at her happiest when demonstrating consent with youngsters, guiding youth into comfort surrounding condoms, and answering questions about sexuality honestly. She facilitates her own version of the Our Whole Lives curriculum adapting the workshops to fit diverse audiences. This non-coercive, comprehensive approach to sex ed is what we all wished we had in high school.

RELATED LINKS | Website | FacebookFacebook Group | Instagram

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Tanya Dotson-Winckler is the CEO and Founder of 180° Time Management™. She helps smart small businesses owners escape overwhelm, eliminate burnout and stop feeling trapped, without sacrificing their success!  She does that by showing them how to reframe their workday and leverage their time. Basically, she reframes time and sh*t.

RELATED LINKS | Website | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

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Laurel Schrock, a network engineer for Verizon Communications, hails from Mount Vernon, NY. She’s an Army Vet, a graduate of Georgetown University and also a small business owner, making her love for candles into what she calls a “hobby that now pays for itself.”  Laurel has always identified as monogamous but a little over two years ago, she began dating an awesome guy who happened to be poly.  Earlier this year (2021), she began to experience intense and debilitating insecurities. Although it was gradual, she was struggling and she knew she needed help. Laurel had an amazing breakthrough recently in discovering and embracing who she really is. She now does not see herself as a monogamous person any longer.

RELATED LINKS | LWB Workshops | FREE Masterclass

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Dr. Sharon M. Flicker is a clinical psychologist who researches intimate relationships, most recently focusing on consensual non-monogamy and love languages. She is licensed to practice psychology in NY and PA and is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at California State University – Sacramento. Dr. Flicker currently serves as the co-lead of the Inclusive Education initiative of the American Psychological Association’s Division 44 Committee on Consensual Non-Monogamy.

Michelle D. Vaughan, Ph.D. is a white, cis, pan, queer, able-bodied, polyamorous psychologist and an Associate Professor in the School of Professional Psychology at Wright State University. She serves as the Executive Director of PolyColumbus, a co-lead within APA Division 44’s Committee on Consensual Non-Monogamy and an editor and co-author of The Handbook of CNM Affirming Mental Health Practice from Rowman & Littlefield.

Marie Thouin, Ph.D. is the founder of Love InSight, a mindful dating & relationship coaching practice where she helps people of all backgrounds design intentional love lives. Marie completed her doctoral dissertation on compersion in consensually non-monogamous individuals at the California Institute of Integral Studies. She also serves as Editor at the International Journal of Transpersonal Studies, a leading peer-reviewed publication in the field of whole-person psychologies.

RELATED LINKS | Sharon’s website and Twitter | Michelle on Twitter | Marie’s business website, her compersion website and her Instagram.


      • I would love the chance to interview, Kitty. You have a way of drawing out ideas that I might never otherwise consider. Tonight it occured to me as I listened to part 2 pf the Michael Rios interview that perhaps I need to learn to more deeply love myself. After all, I preach that loving yourself is the greatest relationship you can have in life. I seek to empower others and help them see and realize their own worth. Then it occured to me that I am lonely and feel stifled if I can’t GIVE love to another. Michael spoke of others as vending machines for our needs. I don’t….didn’t…see them in that way, but I saw then that I need to BE that stand-alone, self-validating individual that I strive to help others become. My own growth and change is imminent now.

        • Hi Steven! I am looking forward to hopefully scheduling a podcast interview with you. Thank you for your kind and complementary words on my interviewing skills and methods of drawing out a great conversation from my interviewees. Michael Rios is one of my favorite interviews to date. I had the pleasure of seeing him present at Beyond The Love last year. So I did have a preview already of what he could bring to the table. His presentation called “Polyamory as a Spiritual Path” just blew me away when I heard it. And yes it was very much focused on loving ourselves so well that we don’t need to use other people as emotional vending machines. What a valuable concept that I carry with me to this day. I am so heartened to hear that this concept resonated with you too from my podcast interview with Michael. Go rock your personal growth, my friend! Yeah!!!

      • Wow, this has been so much fun to go from start to finish through these interviews. I’m in the middle of the most recent one now. So much knowledge and so much love. This is such a rewarding and valuable service you are providing.

        • Wow back atcha, Steven, this comment and sentiment rocks! I never knew I was someday going to be a podcast show creator. I have found it incredibly rewarding for so many reasons, including getting to talk to and gather knowledge from so many smart, compassionate and awesome people. I am thrilled that you are enjoying the interviews so much! It helps me to keep going!

    • Thank you so much for your kind note. I’m so glad that you like the podcast! It is alot of work but so rewarding. I’m enjoying it! Thanks for having such a beautiful and open mind, my lady friend! And THANK YOU for rating and reviewing it on iTunes. You rock! xoxo

  1. I was curious if you had any hints or tips on meeting poly folk? I moved to the lovely city of Baltimore not to long ago and finding others that are in the city has been an adventure. Most of the poly meet ups are out of the city limits – and me embracing the urban lifestyle no longer have a car! SHOCK HORROR! Are there any other places that folk gather online (i am newer to seeking out other poly folks) and plus – i would like to date girls (i am bisexual) but can’t seem to find any in my area. Maybe it is just a regional thing – but any tips would be appreciated.

    • Thanks for your comment! I don’t live far from you – in the Washington DC area. My best suggestion to you is the BmorePoly group (www.bmorepoly.org) in the Baltimore / DC / Nova region run by Barry and Cathy Smiler whom I’ve interviewed for the podcast. You can find their Meetup group here: http://www.meetup.com/BmorePoly. Other local groups and venues for events are Tabu, Bound, The Crucible and Entre Nous (though those are more on the swinger side of ethical non-monogamy).

      Another online community that you can check out is polyamorynetwork.com or also fetlife.com might be great for the bisexual side of you. They have forums there that you can join on any topic under the sun, including personals.

      I hope that helps! Let me know how you fair.

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